Logically how is it possible for seven or eight men in Warwick NY to determine what is now truth compared to how they decided it should be twenty years ago?
Whatever they come up with It is fake news from fairyland.
hi guys, long time without paying a visit to this site.
today i returned to check a 'gossip' that is running around in brazilian exjw forums.. they are stating that is almost certain they will make a big change in their doctrine maybe this year yet in the annual meeting.
they say people in warwick were commenting on this.
Logically how is it possible for seven or eight men in Warwick NY to determine what is now truth compared to how they decided it should be twenty years ago?
Whatever they come up with It is fake news from fairyland.
on board his trip home from eire - the pope gave a 45 min on board press conference (26 aug 2018)..... "... the pope also highlighted the need for parents of gay children to have a dialogue with their offspring and not condemn them.
'your question is clear: what would i say to a father who sees that his son or daughter has that tendency?
i would say first to pray, don’t condemn, dialogue, understand, make space for them.
The RC Church here in the person of the Pope is showing a sensible approach using understanding and compassion within the primary social unit; the family. This is in contrast to the JW org which does not care a fig for the well-being of its abused members. It over-rides the parent/child dialogue by condemning all children, or adults for that matter, with other than heterosexual inclinations.
a thought occurred to me about the perpetuation of jw abusive culture.. (i do not mean sexual abuse - i am referring to emotional, or behavioural abuses).
most jws are raised in the oppressive and abusive culture of jw life.
they have been raised with low self esteem.
Absolutely right Stuck, the JW religion encourages a culture of abuse especially harming the minds of their children who by being emotionally abused by threats of divine judgement for disobeying parents, grow up grossly subservient, with a skewed view of both the world and authority, and remain complicit with the practise of such abuse—unless they wake up!
If they don’t, then they practise emotional and religious abuse on their own children.
This is no longer acceptable in advanced societies. In the UK since 2015 (or 2016) it has been possible to take parents or others to court for emotional and psychological abuse. I wonder when victims of the JW religion will start responding to the opportunity which the law now affords them? Also what measures the JW cult leaders will come up with to defend the indefensible?
it turns out that on the basis of the book of revelation 14:4 the anointed ones have to be virgins?
how does the governing body explain this?.
Yes Steel, I agree that much of the Bible is borrowed and has source references most of them either hidden or lost. 12 x 12 x 1000 must have sounded impressive to the mystical numerologists in the second century but I ask why should the brainstorms of the writer of the Apocalypse have any meaning today?
What is the proof of the pudding here? Ultimately is anyone better off for learning the nightmarish stories of Revelation, or knowing why they were written or how they were intended to be understood?
Both by the passage of time and the history of Jehovah's Witnesses preaching, it has been shown that none of the Bible stories have any prophetic use or any relevance at all to those outside of religious cults.
it turns out that on the basis of the book of revelation 14:4 the anointed ones have to be virgins?
how does the governing body explain this?.
Another thought , which twit decided that having sex is defiling to women? Rev 14,4.
Perhaps if you are an insane and celibate monk spending some time each day in self flagellation, then the book of Revelation may have some appeal for you.
it turns out that on the basis of the book of revelation 14:4 the anointed ones have to be virgins?
how does the governing body explain this?.
"The Bible must not been taken literally unless we say otherwise", say the Guardian Of the Doctrines.
JWs have a pick and mix bunch of teachings whichever sounds the most plausible for the moment-- then it can be altered later on when it starts to look outdated. Crass idiotic religion.
http://www.readingeagle.com/news/article/former-jehovahs-witnesses-protest-outside-convention-in-reading.
i apologize if this has already been posted.
i just saw it when attempting to sign in to this sight and forgetting the dash in the address.
Grim reading Nonnie, the JW cult leaders need exposing
... they've accepted me!
finance is already sorted - they're waiting for me to give them my new student number so that they can start paying me.
just need to formally accept bristol's offer and sort out accommodation.. accommodation should be ok - i've been told priority is given to new students, plus i'm enrolling onto a program for a real degree as a postgraduate - i won't be studying gender studies or some crap like that.
Good on you LUHE! JWs miss out on the thrill of actually learning about real things.
How could anyone study any of the life sciences and not be convinced of evolution? Imagine a JW pioneer with a part-time job doing palaeobiology!
It is my opinion that the geological column should be a primary school subject since its consequences impinge on many aspects of real life.
a user over on the jwtalk forum recently shared a warning over his research on evolution in preparation for an assigned talk.
after detailing a couple of the tidbits that he learned of during his research, he went on to say:.
this i found to be useful especially when talking ot others in the ministry.. but and it is a big but.....
The real reason for serious alarm by JWs finding hints of reality in scientific accounts-- is that it could be true, Heaven forbid!
If the org is actually found to be wrong it would mean a life-changing emotional upheaval, like a ton of bricks falling on the doubter.
Much easier for a JW to stay in the cocoon-- so the conditioned response to secular sources being right is to bury your head and ignore reality. That is "Keep taking the cool aid".
After all, this is what it's like being in a religious cult . . .
this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!
wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .
Everything is wrong with JW org.
O'Brien here is trying limit the damage of the ARC findings and conclusion which he acknowledges will be put on the internet.
He made a fool of himself at the ARC hearings with his inability to see the issues as legally presented and instead pathetically repeated himself defending the party line. The party line being that scriptural values, i.e. that the need for "two witnesses" to an offence, cannot be altered. This as everyone knows bears the blind unthinking illogicality of the fact that sex criminals remove themselves from other's gaze. What he actually meant was that Watchtower dogma-- which he equates with scripture, must not be seen to be compromised because that is the JW strong hand which they play in the religion game.
Laws penned two thousand six hundred year ago may have served for desert goat herders but not for people today who know that compassion and child welfare and development is paramount and enshrined in modern laws and social services.
The very basis for the JW religion, that the Bible is sacred, is outdated and plain wrong. To believe and act on it literally as JWs do is ignorant and harmful.